Check that bore before you spend $800 on it.Serial #111169, 45-70 Govt, 22” barrel with a bright very good bore with spots of light oxidation on the lands and grooves, but strong rifling. Many of our members report good shooting with pitted barrels, but obviously better shooting is to be had with a good bore. While soldiers generally took good care of their weapons and kept the bores from rusting, that can not be said for many of the civilians that bought them for a song post WWI. These were BP rifles while in service and they were well taken care of by soldiers for the most part, but the wooden barracks cleaning rods used were hard on the crown and the end of the rifling due to dirty wood scraping against the soft metal of the barrel. The bore condition of the rifle will be your key to either enjoyment or frustration. If you buy this rifle, there is lots of reloading info here in past threads. My shooting Trapdoor rifle enjoys such a front sight for smokeless powder. BP and smokeless zeros for trapdoors are quite different and thus the higher sight for smokeless. This is not uncommon and indicates that a previous owner installed a higher front sight so that the rifle would zero with smokeless powder. I note that the front sight is not original. My shooting Trapdoor's stock markings are indistinct at best and it came at a bargain price as a result. Collectors like those to be readable and untouched and well preserved markings will add to the asking price of a Trapdoor. Sadly there was not a good photo of the various proofs and stock markings. I personally prefer the 1878 or 1879 sights (one of which is on the rifle your desire) to the later Buffington sight that is found on the 18 Trapdoors. Those include the updated rear sight, short wrist stock and from the photo, probably the low arch breech block. The rifle is indeed a Model 1873 with the modifications of 1879. The books suggested are good ones for your library. Talking about these classics with like minded enthusiasts is part of the enjoyment after all!Īttachment 158935 Attachment 158936 Attachment 158937 Attachment 158938 Attachment 158939 Attachment 158940 Attachment 158941 As a history major I naturally love to learn all I can about all of my firearms and sincerely appreciate you taking the time to share what you can. I am combing the internet and reading good information as well and plan to order the Joe Poyer book on the subject later today. Not new to the 45-70 gov't, but am new to the Springfield Trapdoor and figured I would seek out some good honest opinions on this example. I am tending to think they are a bit high, but as there are so many variables on the Springfields I figured I would seek out those with far more experience concerning the subject. Had them send over a few pics which I will post below. Bore is in nice condition and trap feels nice and tight when open. Recently noticed an ole trapdoor at my lgs and am considering laying it away (they have it priced just shy of 800 and notoriously refuse to budge). Trying to get away from reproductions and wish to add the real deal to my collection where financially feasible. Have been trying to increase my collection of late with more 'history' for lack of a better term.
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